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	<title>Comments on: Persona ~trinity soul~ 09</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 22:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Slay</title>
		<link>http://www.animeyoshi.net/2008/06/persona-trinity-soul-09/#comment-99</link>
		<dc:creator>Slay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well you did mention in the Persona 08 / CB 03 post (May 29th) that both series were stalled because both of their TLs disappeared. :P Thanks the quick response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well you did mention in the Persona 08 / CB 03 post (May 29th) that both series were stalled because both of their TLs disappeared. <img src='http://www.animeyoshi.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> Thanks the quick response.</p>
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		<title>By: Spinal</title>
		<link>http://www.animeyoshi.net/2008/06/persona-trinity-soul-09/#comment-98</link>
		<dc:creator>Spinal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we do need a new translator for crystal blaze. The current TL said he was going to do ep4 but its been almost 2 weeks since he said that. -_-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we do need a new translator for crystal blaze. The current TL said he was going to do ep4 but its been almost 2 weeks since he said that. -_-</p>
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		<title>By: Slay</title>
		<link>http://www.animeyoshi.net/2008/06/persona-trinity-soul-09/#comment-97</link>
		<dc:creator>Slay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although it's unrelated to Persona, does Crystal Blaze still need a translator? Just curious, that's all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although it&#8217;s unrelated to Persona, does Crystal Blaze still need a translator? Just curious, that&#8217;s all.</p>
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		<title>By: Cloud</title>
		<link>http://www.animeyoshi.net/2008/06/persona-trinity-soul-09/#comment-96</link>
		<dc:creator>Cloud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's great news, Spinal! :D Hehe, glad you're back on track. :D

@PersonaFan
Heh, glad to see I'm not the only one who likes quality subs. :D
Most people seem to be satisfied by as little as random gibberish, it seems. I seriously wonder why they watch fansubs and don't just get the RAWs in this case. :P

Oh, and if anyone wants proof of why Ainex's subs are really waaay off, then &lt;a href="http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=cmt&#38;do=animegroup&#38;id=30436&#38;page=1#c47900" rel="nofollow"&gt;read this&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s great news, Spinal! <img src='http://www.animeyoshi.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> Hehe, glad you&#8217;re back on track. <img src='http://www.animeyoshi.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
@PersonaFan<br />
Heh, glad to see I&#8217;m not the only one who likes quality subs. <img src='http://www.animeyoshi.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> Most people seem to be satisfied by as little as random gibberish, it seems. I seriously wonder why they watch fansubs and don&#8217;t just get the RAWs in this case. <img src='http://www.animeyoshi.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Oh, and if anyone wants proof of why Ainex&#8217;s subs are really waaay off, then <a href="http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=cmt&amp;do=animegroup&amp;id=30436&amp;page=1#c47900" rel="nofollow">read this</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Spinal</title>
		<link>http://www.animeyoshi.net/2008/06/persona-trinity-soul-09/#comment-95</link>
		<dc:creator>Spinal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 23:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've got some good news, we found a new TL and he already translated ep10 &#38; ep11 so we might get ep10 out this weekend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got some good news, we found a new TL and he already translated ep10 &amp; ep11 so we might get ep10 out this weekend.</p>
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		<title>By: nifty507</title>
		<link>http://www.animeyoshi.net/2008/06/persona-trinity-soul-09/#comment-94</link>
		<dc:creator>nifty507</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well, i download both. I'm impateint and i'm loving the series so i download ainex right away, but i dont hold on to those files. i download AY and save all those files and will end up watching the show  again once AY finishes the series.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, i download both. I&#8217;m impateint and i&#8217;m loving the series so i download ainex right away, but i dont hold on to those files. i download AY and save all those files and will end up watching the show  again once AY finishes the series.</p>
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		<title>By: PersonaFan</title>
		<link>http://www.animeyoshi.net/2008/06/persona-trinity-soul-09/#comment-93</link>
		<dc:creator>PersonaFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 19:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely agree with Cloud. I only watch Ainex's releases because right now there are very very few options left if I want to see the show. But to be honest, it's really hard to follow what's going on when the translations don't make any sense.

That's why even now I'm patiently waiting for AnimeYoshi's releases no matter how long it may take while hoping they won't drop the series. Honestly, if AY were to drop Persona, too, I might as well say good bye to the series as speedsubs just won't do. I'd prefer quality over speed anytime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely agree with Cloud. I only watch Ainex&#8217;s releases because right now there are very very few options left if I want to see the show. But to be honest, it&#8217;s really hard to follow what&#8217;s going on when the translations don&#8217;t make any sense.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why even now I&#8217;m patiently waiting for AnimeYoshi&#8217;s releases no matter how long it may take while hoping they won&#8217;t drop the series. Honestly, if AY were to drop Persona, too, I might as well say good bye to the series as speedsubs just won&#8217;t do. I&#8217;d prefer quality over speed anytime.</p>
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		<title>By: Cloud</title>
		<link>http://www.animeyoshi.net/2008/06/persona-trinity-soul-09/#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator>Cloud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Firewalker

My God, I hope you're struck by a lightning bolt! :P

Why sub an anime that other groups are subbing? Because the other groups SUCK! Well, their translations do, to be more specific.
You mentioned Ainex and Persona... have you ever TRIED to understand what's going on in the show? If you did, you'd realize their translations and editing are awful and really subpar compared to AnimeYoshi.
So what if Ainex is at ep 22? So what if AnimeYoshi is at ep 9? What, do you think people watch that anime only during the period it's aired? Do you think people never watch old, already aired anime? Do you think people never care about what's being said in the anime, as you apparently do? If the answer to all those is yes, you seriously need to reconfigure your thinking to take other people than yourself into account.

Some people actually don't care if a group releases an episode long after other groups do. After all, why do you think there's a distinction between speedsub and qualitysub groups?
Speedsub - sub it now, figure out what they're saying later.
Qualitysub - take as long as needed, just make it perfect.
You apparently prefer the former. That's your taste, although I'm seriously wondering why you're not watching RAWs in this case cause in the end it's almost the same effect. However, try to realize other people have other tastes. You're not the center of the world, you know.

Even if AnimeYoshi dropped Persona, the move will probably have no effect on other releases. As Hyuver here pointed out, AnimeYoshi has different staff for each project (although some projects have some staffers in common). Fansub groups usually take into consideration how many projects they can take before each one is hindered and slowed down.

Remember, first is not always best in the fansub scene. Why do you think some groups make releases long after the anime even aired? And yes, this is a pretty common phenomenon. The general rule with anime is that, if you want quality subs, you have to wait some considerable amount of time after the episode or anime aired to get it (this is, of course, unless some of the famous groups out there picked it up, such as Eclipse, as they release quality subs much faster than even speedsub groups do!).

Are you saying that if someone is already subbing the anime (even if the subs are very, very poorly done), then there is absolutely no need for another group? Some people just don't like reading illiterate English and poor, waaay off translations, as you might like to, you know?

By your logic, if I'd go and establish a fansub group, take on a show and just put random words and characters in my subs without any regard whatsoever as whether it's even legible or not (not to mention if the translations are even remotely correct), then there is absolutely no need for another group to come and pick it up. Everyone, especially you, would be extremely satisfied with it, right?

I know Persona is already subbed by some other groups, but just look at them! Almost all the groups there have horrible translations. AnimeYoshi is really the ONLY quality fansub group for Persona out there ever since Shinsen Subs dropped the show. A lot of people might depend on AnimeYoshi to actually understand what's going on with the show, and this is especially true for fans of the Persona series, especially the ones who played and liked Persona 3, as Trinity Soul is a sequel to it.

I, at least, know that I rely on AnimeYoshi very much to understand the show. Sure, I watch Ainex to get a peek at what's going on, but their translations are totally unsatisfying. If AnimeYoshi, too, drops this one, then the show might not have even existed for all I care. What's the point in watching if I can't understand very much?

Sorry if my reply seemed harsh, but it just seems to me like your reply is arrogant and very inconsiderate of the circumstances and other people's opinion. The message you seem to be sending is "Listen, this is my opinion and I am always right so it is actually a FACT and you should do as I say. Besides, everyone agrees with me, so there's no point in even asking them.". It doesn't help that you sometimes seem to be sarcastic, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Firewalker</p>
<p>My God, I hope you&#8217;re struck by a lightning bolt! <img src='http://www.animeyoshi.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Why sub an anime that other groups are subbing? Because the other groups SUCK! Well, their translations do, to be more specific.<br />
You mentioned Ainex and Persona&#8230; have you ever TRIED to understand what&#8217;s going on in the show? If you did, you&#8217;d realize their translations and editing are awful and really subpar compared to AnimeYoshi.<br />
So what if Ainex is at ep 22? So what if AnimeYoshi is at ep 9? What, do you think people watch that anime only during the period it&#8217;s aired? Do you think people never watch old, already aired anime? Do you think people never care about what&#8217;s being said in the anime, as you apparently do? If the answer to all those is yes, you seriously need to reconfigure your thinking to take other people than yourself into account.</p>
<p>Some people actually don&#8217;t care if a group releases an episode long after other groups do. After all, why do you think there&#8217;s a distinction between speedsub and qualitysub groups?<br />
Speedsub - sub it now, figure out what they&#8217;re saying later.<br />
Qualitysub - take as long as needed, just make it perfect.<br />
You apparently prefer the former. That&#8217;s your taste, although I&#8217;m seriously wondering why you&#8217;re not watching RAWs in this case cause in the end it&#8217;s almost the same effect. However, try to realize other people have other tastes. You&#8217;re not the center of the world, you know.</p>
<p>Even if AnimeYoshi dropped Persona, the move will probably have no effect on other releases. As Hyuver here pointed out, AnimeYoshi has different staff for each project (although some projects have some staffers in common). Fansub groups usually take into consideration how many projects they can take before each one is hindered and slowed down.</p>
<p>Remember, first is not always best in the fansub scene. Why do you think some groups make releases long after the anime even aired? And yes, this is a pretty common phenomenon. The general rule with anime is that, if you want quality subs, you have to wait some considerable amount of time after the episode or anime aired to get it (this is, of course, unless some of the famous groups out there picked it up, such as Eclipse, as they release quality subs much faster than even speedsub groups do!).</p>
<p>Are you saying that if someone is already subbing the anime (even if the subs are very, very poorly done), then there is absolutely no need for another group? Some people just don&#8217;t like reading illiterate English and poor, waaay off translations, as you might like to, you know?</p>
<p>By your logic, if I&#8217;d go and establish a fansub group, take on a show and just put random words and characters in my subs without any regard whatsoever as whether it&#8217;s even legible or not (not to mention if the translations are even remotely correct), then there is absolutely no need for another group to come and pick it up. Everyone, especially you, would be extremely satisfied with it, right?</p>
<p>I know Persona is already subbed by some other groups, but just look at them! Almost all the groups there have horrible translations. AnimeYoshi is really the ONLY quality fansub group for Persona out there ever since Shinsen Subs dropped the show. A lot of people might depend on AnimeYoshi to actually understand what&#8217;s going on with the show, and this is especially true for fans of the Persona series, especially the ones who played and liked Persona 3, as Trinity Soul is a sequel to it.</p>
<p>I, at least, know that I rely on AnimeYoshi very much to understand the show. Sure, I watch Ainex to get a peek at what&#8217;s going on, but their translations are totally unsatisfying. If AnimeYoshi, too, drops this one, then the show might not have even existed for all I care. What&#8217;s the point in watching if I can&#8217;t understand very much?</p>
<p>Sorry if my reply seemed harsh, but it just seems to me like your reply is arrogant and very inconsiderate of the circumstances and other people&#8217;s opinion. The message you seem to be sending is &#8220;Listen, this is my opinion and I am always right so it is actually a FACT and you should do as I say. Besides, everyone agrees with me, so there&#8217;s no point in even asking them.&#8221;. It doesn&#8217;t help that you sometimes seem to be sarcastic, either.</p>
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		<title>By: Spinal</title>
		<link>http://www.animeyoshi.net/2008/06/persona-trinity-soul-09/#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>Spinal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 02:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the main reason why persona is slow, is because of the translator, and it seems like there will be a new one for ep10+  :o</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the main reason why persona is slow, is because of the translator, and it seems like there will be a new one for ep10+  <img src='http://www.animeyoshi.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Hyuver</title>
		<link>http://www.animeyoshi.net/2008/06/persona-trinity-soul-09/#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>Hyuver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 02:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>* i mean if they are slow</description>
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